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Well, anyone can answer this question because most Indian grew up watching this movies. So I am not going to go into every single cliches. Because there's a lot. Instead I am going to mention some general ones and then most importantly I am going to explain why that is exactly.
Because it is important to point out the flaws but why that is more important.
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Looks, Looks, looks. Mr Roshan and Deepika Padukone.
Unless you look like her or him, you should live boringly or don't deserve anything.
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Finding love is the ultimate goal when without money and job or business everything else is meaningless in real life
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90% movies are love stories. Almost as if there's nothing exist other than love between two characters.
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Nerds don't get girls or hunk. So even if you are one, you can adapt. But in real life people change very slowly. Atleast in Indian context
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Happy ending. Really!!! Happy endings. In real life happy endings are rare.
These are all basic cliches of Indian movies, I am sure a lot more exist. But the point is not that. The point is why do they exist in the first place?
There's reason why bollywood do what it does
Look, India is still a Conservative society so they can't really show everything like western movies.
There's a lot of taboo attached and yet bollywood producers in their mind need to show something that is attractive and not boring to make viewers to buy tickets to go watch it in hall from Indian stand point as a result one would get certain over glamourised doctored version of reality because conservative society tend to be boring for silver screen
Having success in life is more important than anything else. After all you can't love someone when you are hungry :D
But Indian society is Conservative traditional one, it can't go beyond certain things.
This success in life is so very important and yet Indian society's conservative life style doesn't permit one to be truly professional. Because when a person truly professional, he and she can only then increase his or her true potential to work eithic hence a lot of progress in work place hence a lot of income.
What is truly professional?
Everything in your life centred around your job or business, your relationship only exist to take care of your mental aspect to be more efficient in your work place which means you don't necessarily have to have those traditional Indian marriage system, maybe one night stand and short term relationships are more suitable in that way. Basically relationships are there for you so that you don't feel alone and get distracted in your job or business.
Relationship are not primary in your life
Why am I saying all this?
Because most of the bollywood movies are copied from Hollywood movies. I am talking about rom com ones.
A guy in New York works in some MNC and then he suddenly met a girl in train who works in some NGO.
They talked, they laughed, they spent one evening, they made love to each other, they moved on to their lives next day.
Suddenly, hero and heroines realised that they are missing each other.
Love story starts.
This is a common plot in Hollywood rom com.
Bollywood copies it and make Indian version movie out of that.
But underlined line they are missing that unlike Indian society, these people's lives are not centred around marriage or family rather their job.
In the meantime, they sleep with their opposite gender not to feel alone.
They are potraying a perfect life of true professional which does not happen in India.
Because we don't know the meaning of true professional which is why our work culture also suffer. Truly professional isn't possible in Indian conservative middle class society anyway with large family and traditional customs. So work culture hampers as well.
So when bollywood is copying Hollywood, they are missing out that both the individual in stories don't have conservative big families to tell how they should live their lives. They are basically free and have money from their business and job, so they use that money to beautify themselves. Because they're not otherwise occupied like Indian family with relatives and parents and stuff.
So they look gorgeous.
Because they have money and they're not otherwise occupied to spend that money other than themselves and they work on it everyday.
Now how that is relevant in Indian society where a guy or girl suppose after passing JEE, working in some MNC.
He or she probably came from poor or middle class family where she or he probably have a lot of responsibility of their parents and other relatives in certain cases. Because it is traditional conservative society, parents are putting pressure to get married. Because it is Conservative society, sexual independence is zero hence from growing up days people would less likely to give importance to their looks to attract opposite gender. It's not in the Indian eco system.
In such a situation when bollywood copies Hollywood script to make an Indian version movie, a lot of things would look out of place.
Got it now why cliches are existing?
What can be even better name for India since 'India' is a racist name in a world where native Americans are called 'Red Indians'? Is there any better solutions for India's new name which could explain India better without going away too much from the name 'India' as it sounds nice?
I like the name ‘India’ although I understand the sentiments behind the question.
Probably some Iranian in the past started to call us 'Hindu' from Indus valley civilization where original name was 'Sindhu' or 'Sindh'. They were mispronouncing the name 'Sindhu' to 'Hindu'. That name 'Hindu' got stuck from that time.
Now with British, they took it to another level, they were mispronouncing it to 'Indu' or 'Ind' or 'Indi' from 'Hindu' or 'Hind'. From that the name 'India' was invented by the British.
Now India is a sweet name. All the people in India like this name. But the problem is with it's racist history. For example Columbus, when he first discovered America, he thought he mistakenly came to India as he saw the similarity between native Americans and brown Indians. He thought these people are probably redish skintone Indian people or popularly called 'Red Neck'.
Now we all know that the name ‘Red Indian' is highly racist name in America, it is probably as notoriously racist as calling African people 'Nigga' or 'Nigro' or 'Nigre'.
That's why some people in West or more specifically in America has started to call native Americans as Indians to avoid any such issues.
This creates a lot of unnecessary stupid insulting issue. For example we all know American people are notoriously ignorant about things. As a result they often think that there's actually two Indian group in this world, one of them is in America and other one is in Asia. Some even go further than this and ask stupidly how come Indians exist in Asia?
Can you imagine how insulting it is to Indian people when at one point of time in history India aka ‘Bharatbarsha’ was arguably the richest country in the world or very close to it.
The whole Indian civilization has therefore become joke or absolutely nothing to some people due to some historical racist stupidity.
The thing is Indians don't necessarily care about such stupidity of Americans but they don't necessarily like to hear about this from various ways either. It's not really a very nice thing end of the days.
So therefore the issue such as the above mentioned question arises.
India is basically the world's smallest continents. We have more language than rest of the world, as many as culture and even more customs and food habits and many skintones.
All Indian people are not necessarily from Indus valley civilization. 50% or more or slightly less are from Dravidian civilization which tend to live in Southern India. Now because of history behind the name, when we call our country India, it doesn't necessarily represent the people from Southern India.
But what are the options- we can go back to ‘Bharatbarsha’ or in short 'Bharat' in that case southern Indians may say that is Northern Indian name which could create another controversy which we don't want.
We could name our country ‘Hind’ or 'Hindustan' but then other religious people will think that we are trying to destroy their religion which will create another controversy which we don't want.
Also the name 'INDIA' has such a sweet tune to it and it has also got into our Indian blood and brain.
So what can be the solution then?????
Well, in my opinion this should be the perfect solution-
Indus valley civilization+ Dravidian civilization = Indria (Indrian).
Yeah, just adding one 'R' in a perfect position and everything automatically put into place nicely and also the ‘India’ or ‘Indian’ tune is same with 'Indria' or 'Indrian' name.
It is also very Indian name. ‘India’ was completely British name. But 'Indria' sits nicely between an Indian name and a British name.
So what do you think?
You can choose disagree with me.
But end of the day, it is just a creative thought.
How can one make Indian TV shows and movies world's best?
Right now, it almost impossible. One can even get rid off the 'almost' from here.
Money is an issue. But then we can do what we did with IPL which made IPL one of richest sporting league in the world.
The problem is with then Indian society.
See, India is basically a modern country based on old world morality and principal and therefore it is limited in lots of ways compared to respective power houses.
Therefore sensor board is a huge problem.
It makes even adult feel like kids.
The reality though is telling a different story as this is an extremely connected world now therefore nothing is restricted anymore like it used to be therefore people get to experience a lot of things from world which earlier wasn't available.
This makes sensor board even more ridiculous in present times.
See, one thing we need to understand as long as certain number of people from past eras are alive, sensor board will never be abolished from India.
So one must look at other ways to make things done.
Foreign online movies and TV show platform can be a good solution here.
As we all know in internet, everything can be available and also Indian laws don't apply on these platforms.
See, we can try to create a system where Indian companies are investing a lot of money into this and directors are having all the freedom to create international standards content without getting restricted by the sensor board.
But problems will be with return.
Let me explain little more deeply-
Let's take an example like game of thrones-
Star World show it in India with a lot of sensoring.
Like that these movies can also be shown in movie theatre with sensoring by sensor board.
Those who want to watch without sensor will have option of watching it in those foreign online platforms where Indian sensor board has no legal authority.
See, end of the days, in the beginning, hype solve most problems. If something like this ever materialize in India, then hype will take care of promoting issues.
Movies can be made in English, and also in all the 8-9 Indian languages just like Bahubali did with very good dubbed version.
If dubbed version isn't going to make movie good then one always have option of very good subtitles.
This will solve lots of problem of return.
As the time progress, people will know how to make this whole process better and therefore better return.
This has also happened with IPL. In the first year, franchises have lost a lot of money.
But now everyone can see the results.
Remember, India's young population is growing each day, and their demands are different from past generations. This is why Bollywood is failed to impress Indian young viewers like it used to even 8-10 years ago.
And then because it is connected to the world platforms.
International movie producing house will also start to invest a lot of money into this project, they already do by the way in some of the Bollywood movies.
One must remember, I mentioned Game of thrones because it is liked by Indian viewers as well as western viewers. So one cannot make project like Lion, Slamdog millionaire or some of those festival movies and expect to be loved by Indians. Things will not change even then.
Indian people will still like big extravaganza like that but unlike Bollywood, it will be well made and with little holes like international projects as sensor board will not come in the way of creativity and money factors will also be supportive. The only difference will be it is from Indian point of view as oppose to foreign.
This is a sure way to even challenge mighty God like Hollywood one day.
Okay, I keep seeing these same kind of questions again and again on Quora.
Let me ask you a question instead
When you are asking this kind of question, what is your thinking behind it?
Are you asking because you feel bollywood movies look lame compared to Hollywood movies or is it the fact that you are simply fed up seeing from your childhood same kind of bad Hollywood copy bullshit from people like Karan Johar?
Whatever the reason maybe, do any of you can come up with an uniform idea what exactly do you want to see from bollywood movies?
I don't think so, you won't be able to agree to any one single idea
What does that tell you?
We don't have any clue what we want from bollywood movies
But we don't like it
Because we are a confused country
We are a mordern country based on mediaeval sentiment as a result we are constantly struggling between mordernity and nostalgia
When we watch a Hollywood movie, we ask ourselves subconsciously, why bollywood movies can't be like that?
Well, Karan Johar (I never liked any of his movies) also ask himself that :D
But he can't really make one like that either
He tries but it turns everytime into a stupid hollywood copy bullshit waste of time movie
Now, let's say that he is a bad movie maker but even if for arguments sake, let's say he is a decent movie maker, then why can't he make good movies?
Because people like him also confused what to do in India, just like it's viewers
First of all, there's no story in most of the bollywood movies, in students of year, he created college students that don't exist in India.
Sidharth Malhotra's character is supposed to be a guy from places like California who is after becoming adult moved away from his parents house and living in places like Miami, he is a rich kid which is why well groomed from childhood but now he is poor as he is working as bartender in Miami so basically a rich world scenario
Siddharth Malhotra's character is supposed to be like that
Now, imagine such character in India where even word sex is taboo
What an irony!!!
Karan Johar really wants to turn Mumbai into California but he can't really do that either
Ha, ha, too bad for him censor board will police him
So in a way, he feels his hands are tied behind his back therefore end product is stupid
Then why movies like that have certain fan base
Because we don't live in conservative religious world anymore
Due to internet, Indians can see world in their home
So in a conservative society, western liberal world is very interesting therefore Indians want that in India but unfortunately it is not possible as long as older generations are in power
Therefore they have to satisfy themselves seeing bullshit Karan Johar movie because we hate our conservative society and it's life style, we don't like to admit but everyone knows this :D
So there's always a demand for such movies in India
Karan Johar knows that
Another one is body shaming, women's skin showing and confusion around it in bollywood and it's viewers:
What is general argument against Bollywood? It's stereo type women body over sexualisation . Well even in western flims they do that very very well and with quite success. I am sure you know exactly what I am taking about here. Actually a universal truth is sex sells and it sells well. Naked women body is such fuss therefore. So those item song you see in bollywood they are very soft version of those sex comedy in Hollywood or other western flims. In India you will see two kinds of critique of Bollywood - one is against those sanskari babuji type flims and another against these objectification of women body. Yet most of them will have no problem watching western Erotica or flims with nudity. Rest will be ultra conservative , so they will probably be stay clear of these. The question is why? Well to give an answer to that question some of them will say that because the scene demands it and they showed it with maturity. That's absolutely bullshit statement. That's actually showing they have no idea what they are taking about- there is some basic difference between western public and Indian public. In the West , there has been sexual revolution. It did not happen here. So thinking process of both the civilization formed over completely different base.
In western countries, people can have sex almost in front of their parents and children. Women can take their top off in public place such as on bitch. Couple can make out in public places with hands everywhere. These are unthinkable in India. So when there's a sex scene in western flims or full frontal nudity, it's not a big deal to western public but it is to Indian public.
Then what is the difference- the whole sexual revolution came on the basis of rejecting the morality of constructive religion - in this case Christianity - one of the reason today orthodox Christian are the real minority in West. In the West people realised quite early that morality is makeshift thing which is created by ancient people to control the society so that it doesn't go chaotic as they had limited knowledge about things around them. It was a best thought in that circumstances. But with time they realised what are the weakness of makeshift thing like morality . They realised that one can only make the morality work in real life if they are aware of its limitations otherwise any thought process of thinking it as absolute could hault progress , evolution, innovative thought process and eventually end of human civilization. This is the kind of thinking brought sexual revolution.
Now in India people don't think this way. Most often people don't even know how to think this way. They are not even aware of this . So as a result what's happening - on one hand people like conservative things and on the other hand people with more global mixing thought process don't exactly know why they are criticising certain things and that is why they made up argument based on very weird circumstances so that their whole argument gets at time contradicted with their act. Because they don't have the basic understanding of certain things like western public , they are saying to themselves - this is what happens in West so you better suck it up.
The problem with the Bollywood is actually what is the problem with India. As I said before India is a modern country based on mediveal morality and religion. So people are confused with the clash of modernity and mediveal morality and religion. Most liberal people are also not completely out of this confused lot. Most often these people take certain positions which can be very modern in certain way but in other ways same old morality and religious pampering. Because they don't get this modern world like western public do as I said before because of their different base of thinking process.
This is why so much hue and cry over Indian movies.
Truth is Indian movies won't change as long as Indian society remains conservative religious and sensor board there to police them.
Movie makers think that ordinary Indian life style are boring so a story on Indian life style won't be that exciting hence there's so many biopic on interesting Indian character in recent times due to all this criticism in recent times and those period movies therefore dramatized to do some kind of glam up for the same reason as well irrespective of the fact that they know they are going to get flak for that and in a way that's good for publicity
But as long as ordinary Indian people's life style won't be interesting enough to show on silver screen, you will keep seeing same Karan Johar bullshit again and again because we have a lot of stories but they are not that interesting enough to sell
This is an unfortunate reality
Edit: Hinduism bashing in Bollywood is completely different, I need to write a different answer for that :D